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witt and welcome to "msnbc sunday." big developments this morning in egypt, including a major meeting today. the country's largest opposition group is meeting with egypt's vice president. the muslim brotherhood says it's pushing for legitimate and just changes. the group still wants president hosni mubarak gone, though. meanwhile, banks in egypt are opening for the first time since the protests began. some 340 bank branches opened today across the country. the u.s. now says that instead of president mubarak's quick departure, it supports the transition process that egypt's new vice president is handling. the process calls for new elections in september. nbc's keir simmons is following this from our london bureau. good morning to you. the muslim brotherhood talking with egypt's vice president today. what can you tell us about this meeting? >> reporter: good morning, alex. this really is, frankly, astonishing. remember, the muslim brotherhood, who have been banned in egypt since the 1950s. now we see them sitting down with egypt's vice president, omar solomon, in talks about the
future of the country. it would be wrong to call them negotiations, but you know, it really is still very significant. the talks also include other opposition parties who somehow refuse to attend, still insisting that president mubarak step down first. indeed, the muslim brotherhood itself has been criticized by others involved in the protest because it was slow to take up their cause, if you like. so, it would be wrong to paint them as the key opposition group, but they are large. and to see them at the table like this is quite something. >> yeah. actually, incredible. what about the situation today in cairo, with all the protests continuing, but the banks reopening. how's that working out? >> reporter: right. i mean, look, if president hosni mubarak, who is hoping that the protests would run out of steam -- frankly, he is said to be disappointed -- there are still thousands in tahrir square. that said, part of the square is now open to traffic. as you say, alex, the banks are reopening again for them to get your money. remember, they have been closed for a week and the finally
reopening has been welcomed by some of the protesters, because they said, look, they never meant to do things that meant that people would struggle to survive. so, some order is returning, but you really can't say anything like things are getting back to normal there. >> yeah, right. okay. and with the confusion about the major political shake-up -- i mean, i've got to tell you, yesterday as we were covering this, we were getting one word, then another word that, you know, it was very difficult to cover it from here because it was so fluid. that's been defined well to the people there? do they know exactly what has happened? >> reporter: well, i mean, i think what they know is that this is another change that would have been unthinkable just a few weeks ago. i mean, this is the leadership of egypt's ruling party, the national democratic party, resigning. one of the problems, though, is these -- i talked about the brotherhood earlier -- these opposition groups are fractured, and some of them fear that if they come forward to negotiate in talks, in a sense, they lose
something with the protesters. so, this is a difficult negotiating point. and there is a hard core group in tahrir square whose view is that the president needs to resign and resign now and they're not going to move. so, it is very difficult. it is confused in a sense because i think, to some extent, if you like, the opposition are quite confused. >> okay. keir simmons in london. keir, thanks so much. well, the state department is pushing back on some surprising comments made by a retired u.s. diplomat who was sent to egypt last week to meet with president mubarak. frank wisner told a security conference yesterday that he thinks the embattled leader should stay in power. >> the president must stay in office in order to steer those changes through. i, therefore, believe that president mubarak's continued leadership is critical, it's his opportunity to write his own legacy. he's given 60 years of his life to the service of his country. this is an ideal moment for him to show the way forward.
>> let's bring in msnbc news white house correspondent mike viqueira. good sunday morning to you, mike. >> reporter: good morning, alex. >> so you know, the u.s. government sounds very measured about talking about mubarak. did this come out of nowhere? >> reporter: right. i mean, the language of diplomacy is so oblique, it's so subtle. it's almost like shadow boxing at times. you really never know what people are trying to say on the face of it. you have to read between the lines and compare one statement with another statement. now, here's a gentleman, a former ambassador to egypt, known as an old egypt hand, someone who is close to mubarak. he was tapped by president obama, was his fellow frank wisner, that sound bite you just saw, to go just a few days ago, last week to sort of whisper in the ear of hosni mubarak. he was president obama's personal emissary. he went there, had two meetings. the second one, we're told, did not go well. there were reports wisner was not even able to get in to see mubarak because mubarak was so angry about the comments that president obama made, the public comments that he made just after a conversation that those two
men had had. frank wisner now back in the united states. he was speaking to that security conference in munich where hillary clinton was all over the place. she was having bilaterals with the russians, with europeans, taking a lot of questions on egypt. she seemed to embrace the talk that keir just reported on with vice president suleman and some others in the opposition party, though not necessarily the muslim brotherhood. she also warned of nefarious factions within egypt that sought to derail the reform process. and still a lot of ambiguity on the part of the administration on whether they want to see hosni mubarak leave now or leave in september, when the previously scheduled elections were to take place. there is no question now where frank wisner comes down on it. the personal emissary, someone, obviously, by implication explicitly and implicitly, someone that was trusted by the administration, now saying that mubarak should stay. so, a confusing message, certainly. the state department late last night pushed back on wisner. they say -- "we have a great respect for frank wisner and we
were deeply appreciative of his willingness to travel to egypt last week. he has not continued in any official capacity following the trip. the views he expressed today are his own. he did not coordinate his comments with the u.s. governme governme government." we have not heard from president obama since the joint press availability on friday with canadian prime minister, alex, but he will be in an interview before the super bowl today. that will be his latest comments on the situation in egypt. alex? >> okay. thank you very much, mike viqueira, from the white house. we invite all of you to watch "meet the press" today. david gregory will have an exclusive interview with prominent egyptian activist mohamed elbaradei and speak with senate relations committee's john kerry, today on "meet the press." well, today marks what would have been ronald reagan's 100th birthday. the nation's 40th president is being remembered for his remarkable political career and for his leadership during the cold war. at an event yesterday, former vice president dick cheney shot down suggestions that the climate in washington was friendlier during reagan's presidency.
>> speak of it as a gentler time in politics when supposedly, debates were more cordial and opponents on capitol hill were unfailingly civil and respectful toward the president. i hope i'm not disillusioning anyone, but i don't quite remember it that way. >> you can watch the reagan centennial celebration in california later today. we'll bring you live coverage here on msnbc beginning at 2:00 in the east, 11:00 a.m. out west. a suspect is in police custody after trying to rob a north carolina convenience store and was then confronted by the store clerk, and it was all caught on tape. here it is. the clerk says he thought the man was joking when at first he demanded money, but then he realized the suspect had a gun, so he decided to defend himself with a baseball bat. the clerk chased the man out the door after hitting him on the head. and as that suspect drove away, the store clerk broke a few of his car windows. police say that is what helped them identify the suspect's vehicle. the suspect now faces charges of attempted robbery and possession of a weapon by a felon.
the midwest is bracing for more snow after a storm packed a surprising punch on saturday. central illinois was blanketed under six inches of snow. another few inches are expected up in chicago today, which is bad news for windy city residents who say their streets are still a mess from wednesday's blizzard. >> we can't get out, and this is just ridiculous. >> it's not fair, and we are homeowners and we pay our taxes here just the same as they do on the north side. >> well, five inches fell in northern ohio. highway patrol says it handled two dozen calls as cars slipped on the icy roads there. let's go to the weather channel's alex wallace for a look at today's forecast. any brighter spots there? you've got some circles. >> exactly. more circles, meaning more bad news. more snow, as you mentioned there, moving its way into the chicagoland area and also wintry weather into portions of the southern tier as well. let's get you on in to chicago, though, first, where we do have this one little weaker system moving its way through the area,
certainly paling in comparison to what we dealt with earlier in the week. but nevertheless, a couple inches possible as this system drives its way on by, eventually getting into portiones of lower michigan. then, we head a little further south. what we're dealing with now oklahoma city southward, rain at this time. but as you work into the panhandle of texas, amarillo, we're seeing some snow. we could see a couple inches before it's all said and done. this is all going to sag southward down towards the dallas/arlington area. could see for the super bowl there for folks tailgating a little rain maybe mixing in with a little bit of snow. so, we'll follow this front, bringing us that activity across the red river valley, moving its way on eventually later this evening into arkansas, we could see some snow showers in and around little rock. farther north, we're still dealing with snow right around the great lakes. that will head into the eastern lakes as we head into tonight. and again, we're going to be talking about cold air also coming in behind this system. that's going to set the stage for another winter storm system for next week, alex. >> okay. alex wallace, thanks for the heads-up on that. and to track the weather systems across this nation, check the up-to-date forecast
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here in new york, a crowd gathered outside the united nations to rally against mubarak's government. and then in washington, around 100 people or so marching the egyptian embassy right to the white house. the rally included people across the country, including a busload of supporters who made that trip from michigan. well, in cairo this morning, christians and muslims prayed together in tahrir square to show national unity and to counter claims that the protests are being organized by the muslim brotherhood. >> egypt is one people. there is no christians or muslims. we are all united against this. >> well, the muslim brotherhood is holding talks with egypt's government today to try to end the political crisis. the unrest in egypt and other arab nations is "newsweek's" newest cover story. christopher dickey is "newsweek's" regional editor and joins me live from cairo via skype. christopher, glad you are here. what a storey you are covering.
and the big news today, the muslim brotherhood meeting with vice president suleiman. can you put this in perspective in terms of how significant a development this is? >> sure. what's really going on is that the egyptian government is trying to put the muslim brotherhood out there as the face of the opposition, because it's very comfortable with the muslim brotherhood. as much as it presents it as a threat, it's actually worked with it in this kind of weird, politically sadomasochistic relationship for many years, bringing it into the parliament, even though it was an illegal party, then banning it from the parliament by playing games in elections. they're very comfortable with the muslim brotherhood, and they understand it. what they don't understand is the actual majority of the people out in tahrir square. they don't understand why the educated and the poor and christians and muslims and people who have never been politically active in any significant way before are turning out by the hundreds of thousands to say that they want
massive change in the egyptian government. so, that's really what's going on. and i think that the press is sort of missing the point when they say, ah, you know, they're meeting with the muslim brotherhood. the muslim brotherhood is not leading this movement at all. it's a component of it. and the egyptian government would like the world to believe that, in fact, this movement is all following the brotherhood, because that gives it an excuse, if it wants to, to betray the movement or to crack down on the movement. >> so, christopher, why, then, is the egyptian government so off the mark? how is it that they're so disconnected with why people are in tahrir square? what you're saying is really true, that they don't get it? >> well, i think this is where age really becomes an important factor. you know, i'm, what, 59 years old. 20 years ago is nothing for me when i was living here in cairo. it seems like yesterday. if you're 82, 20 years is really nothing.
and most of the population of egypt is under 24 years old, and they have grown up in an era of high technology, of twitter, of facebook, of connection to the rest of the world that no previous generation of egyptians ever experienced, and hosni mubarak does not understand that, and neither do people like share yif, who just resigned as the head of the democratic party. they feel they can deal with people through lies, which is the way they have done it in the past. and if you were to put a positive construction on it, they think if you just have the economy growing fast enough, have all those numbers saying you've got 6% and 7% growth, that's going to take care of everything. there is absolutely no appreciation of the actual sort of political repression and personal repression that a whole generation, the majority of the population, feels in this country. >> christopher, i'm curious,
when you describe the country's population that way, it falls under the parameters of a country that has largely lived in peace with its neighbor israel for 30 years. how much do you worry that in the wake of president mubarak's leadership, be that september or whenever that might be that there's a change -- do you worry about the safety of keeping that peace treaty in place or do you think that because an entire generation has grown up in peace, they don't want war, they want to keep it as is? >> i don't think they want war. i don't think that it's a particularly ideological generation in the sense of wanting to go to war with israel because they don't like israel. i don't think they necessarily love israel and don't necessarily approve of its policies or its treatment of the palestinians, but that's not a huge issue for these people. the issue is, is egypt going to be part of the modern world? is it going to hold its place among the nations? these are 80, 85 million people,
50% of them under 24, who are looking to the future and saying are we always going to be in a backwater or are we going to be part of the modern world? and they've tasted the modern world through television, through facebook, through twitter, through the internet, and they don't want to be left out anymore. and that's the powerful -- that's the really powerful force that's going on here. will they waste all that to go to war with israel? i don't think so. but the game that the mubarak administration has played for 30 years is that only we, the mubarak administration, can hold back the tide of fundamentalism, only we can keep the treaty. >> ah. but christopher, with regard to what's happening in the country, the protesters on the street say they're not going to stop until mubarak steps down. he's given no indication at all he's going to do that. if he were to leave office, then what? >> well, i think the wiser leaders among the people in tahrir are already looking beyond tahrir. they understand sort of a basic
principle here, which is they need to go to free and fair elections. but elections are not about just the will of the people. elections are about organized political parties. and the situation that's been created over 30 years is that there are essentially only two organized parties in this country, really organized parties. one is the ndp, mubarak's party. the other is the muslim brotherhood, which was outlawed, and yet allowed to participate in elections informally. everybody else has been decimated. everybody else has been co-opted or wiped out or intimidated or exiled. you've got a little fractional parties that are historical or left wing, but they represent virtually nothing with the electorate. what needs to be done now is to find the space and the time to allow the people who are in tahrir to organize not one party but parties that can compete in free and fair elections. can that be done between now and september when mubarak's term
expires? that's a big question mark. and i think that's part of what the u.s. administration is looking at as it's trying to deal with this question of does he leave or does he go. and frank wisner is saying he should stay until the end. is it necessary to humiliate mubarak or is it necessary to buy time to organize parties? the latter is really more important. >> all right, christopher dickey. as always, much appreciated with your insights. >> thank you, alex. lawsuit threat. why attorneys for amanda knox are upset about a new movie being made about the case. plus, the return of the puppy bowl. we're going to take a look at what to be gained there when "msnbc sunday" returns. our points from chase sapphire preferred are worth 25% more on travel. we're like forget florida, we're going on a safari. so we're on the serengeti, and seth finds a really big bone. we're talking huge. they dig it up, put it in the natural history museum and we get to name it. sethasauraus. really. your points from chase sapphire preferred are worth 25% more on travel?
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asking for for decades, and these are significant statements from the government. one -- egypt has agreed, according to this statement, to suspend martial law in this country once the security situation stabilizes. there has been martial law in egypt since president anwar sadat was assassinated. so, many egyptians -- and the egyptian government has used this emergency law to justify almost all of its security actions, its crackdown on political parties, its arrests of opposition leaders. so, agreeing to suspend martial law once this immediate problem that we are facing right now is over is a major concession. the u.s. embassy has been asking for this for decades, literally. the government, according to this statement, has also said that it will change the constitution, or at least modify the constitutional amendments, to make it easier for more people in this country to run for president. that is also something that
people have been asking for and a request that the u.s. embassy and the u.s. state department in general have been pressuring egypt to do. also, more press freedom. no specifics on how that would take place, although egypt said, according to this meeting that took place between the vice president and the opposition, that more press freedom would be allowed. the list just kept going and kept going. all of almost everything that the opposition members have been asking for. the statement said that the two sides agreed to legitimize the youth movement, giving it respect and credibility. that is also a big step, because many of the people who have been protesting feel that the government has tried to make them look like rebels and dissidents and people who don't have legitimate grievances. the government is now accepting publicly that they do have legitimate grievances. finally, they also said that while investigations are under way to look into allegations of corruption, parliament would be suspended. so, there have been so many
allegations of members of parliament not really being elected, stealing the votes. now the government is saying the parliament won't meet with those allegedly illegitimate members of parliament to pass new laws until these issues are resolved. it is the news that egyptians have been waiting to hear for a long time, and it comes as the protest movement, the one that has been on the street, the revolution, appears to be losing steam and losing a little bit of momentum. >> okay. richard, i can't write down all this stuff fast enough. and every single one of these five points you outlined are significant, and that's going to help shape our coverage and the reaction to that this day. but tell me how you see the reaction to this on behalf of the protesters. they have been clamoring for hosni mubarak to leave. that is their singular line. but the undercurrent on all of that are all these points, which are going to be met, apparently. so, what does this do? does it make them subside asking for his ouster? >> reporter: well, that is the
one thing that the government says it will not do. mubarak personally doesn't want to be humiliated. and a lot of egyptians, by the way, who aren't in tahrir square, don't want to see the person who's led this country for three decades be thrown out in a disgrace, to have him pack up his bags and run in the middle of the night like tunisia's president. the arab states certainly don't want that. and if we're to make a statement -- and it's pretty clear the united states doesn't want that either. they want a smooth transition. the united states has never called for mubarak to get on the next plane out of town. the protest movement, the people who are camped in and out tahrir, they've been attacked, they've been living in solidarity, they've been living with almost no access to bathrooms and medical facilities and very little food, you know, living on coffee and cigarettes and cookies for the last 13 days. they have become the die-hards in this, and they want nothing less than president mubarak to leave and leave tonight, if possible.
but a lot of other people in this country are watching these kind of statements and have seen that the government has already made a lot of concessions. president mubarak's son, gemal, yesterday stepped down from the head of the political party here. that means it would be very difficult for him to run for president. mubarak has said he's not going to run for president. and then this list that i was just going through -- lifting emergency law -- that changes the whole tenure of egyptian society, allowing more press freedom, legitimizing their movement, not calling them criminals anymore, and then suspending parliament so that it can't be changed in the meantime. it is what they've been asking for. now, if you can just convince the people in tahrir square that this will be carried out, that is the next challenge, and to convince them that mubarak doesn't have to get on the next plane and leave the country, which has, obviously, as you mentioned, been their most singular demand.
>> richard, is this going to be viewed as victory by the protesters? and how is the egyptian government getting this information out there to people in the square, to the 18 million residents in cairo? >> reporter: this is just developing right now. i was handed a few minutes ago this statement. we were just going through it, trying to translate it. it was also distributed and is going out on sms messages to newspapers like the state government, the state newspaper, "el arahm." the people in the square, as far as i know, don't know this message, but they have been receiving delegations over the last few days. military officials have gone to talk with them, and they had representatives in the meeting today with vice president omar suleiman. so, one would assume that those representatives are now going to go back and talk to the people in the square and tell them, we got almost all of what we were asking for. and we'll see if the people in the square will accept that.
but the protest movement isn't just the people who are barricaded in tahrir square. a lot of people can support the call for greater democracy and greater reform and not necessarily want to camp out in downtown and be ready to defend molotov cocktails and to be, you know, fighting as a solidarity movement. we just spoke with people in other parts of the city who say, you know what, we want this reform, but we also need to get back to work and we need to have our economy going again. >> richard, these five points that you've made, off the top of my head, the most nebulous one seems to be the fourth point, legitimizing the youth movement. how do they do that in a tangible way? every single other thing you can absolutely see, suspending of law, stopping the parliament from working, more press. you can have a tangible feel for that. but legitimizing the youth movement, what does that mean? >> reporter: it means you don't insult them anymore. it means -- if you watch
egyptian state television over the last several days, they refer to them in a kind of dismissive way, that these are just kids. the word youth shabeb, depending on how you say it, you can read that these are the young people of our nation or you can refer to them as, you know, these are just kids who are making mess and making conflict. they were also some reports on the talk shows where they were describing them as, you know, hippies and outlaws who are just camping out, causing problems, troublemakers. so, you treat them with respect. you say they have a legitimate grievance. these aren't just a few kids who are in the square. this is something that they have a legitimate cause and that their cause is being seriously. so, i think it is more of a tone than anything else. and this is a region where tone and respect matters a great deal. >> yeah. okay, richard engel, excellent reporting, per usually, and thanks for getting this together and getting it to us in such a timely fashion. we'll talk to you again from cairo. let's go for more perspective on
all this, joined by msnbc military analyst, retired u.s. army general barry mccaffrey. you're hearing it as it's happening. your opinion on what richard engel is saying about the changes the government is going to implement. >> it's great reporting by richard engel, as usual. i think he's also correct, though, that the movement seems to be losing some steam. the hundreds of thousands of young people, the professional classes, as well as, i think, some emerging reporting, it seems to indicate the egyptian armed forces are now solidly staying with the government for a variety of reasons, you know. great sympathy probably at company level with the protesters. the generals, who are rich, who are part of the social elite, are falling behind mubarak. so, i think this is encouraging news, that they are recognizing they've got a problem. they can't put them back in the bottle, these massive demonstrations have changed egypt going forward, but this is
going to be an irregular progress toward any form of democracy in egypt. there are ten people in that government that are actually thinking about free and fair elections. >> okay. let's get to those elections. changing the constitution, the second point that richard gave us, changing the constitution, amending it to open it up to more candidates who will be allowed to be considered for office. where does that come from? is that purely a reaction to the people saying we want this president out and we want fair representation? >> well, you know, i've been consulting with friends who have lived in egypt and are experts on the armed forces and their political processes. i don't certainly pretend to be. i think we've got a problem. the constitution as it stands was the product of 30 years of dictatorship, and it absolutely was an autocracy in which the armed forces stood behind a
autocratic elite, which was incompetent and corrupt. changing that is going to be very prolonged work. so, it's hard for me to imagine. for example, this whole notion of the muslim brotherhood being pulled to the front looks more like a ploy of the government than anything else. the massive reaction to mubarak was to injustice capricious governments incompetence less so than a reaction to they're hungry. 40% of that country is hungry. so, it's lack of opportunity and justice, and that has to be taken into account. that means political parties and reasonable access to the political system. >> explain what you mean, sir, about the government talking with the muslim brotherhood being a ploy. what is behind that? >> well, i think when you look at the country, most of the people i'm talking to say 25% of the country, maybe, would be supportive of the muslim brotherhood. they're almost a threat that's
marched out by mubarak and his people when needed to justify autocratic rule. i think what you're seeing right now in the streets of cairo and alexandria and elsewhere are hundreds of thousands of people that look at a political system that has repressed society, free expression, economic opportunity, and plus, they're not very good at what they do. they're incompetent as can be. and by the way, the military, the most respected institution in that society, for a lot of good reasons, is in some ways, particularly generals and admirals, is a tool of the state. so, this is a problem, but this wanot an islamic uprising we're seeing in that square. it's an expression of rage by common people who want opportunity. >> barry mccarvffrey breaking dn this breaking news for us. as always, we appreciate your time. >> good to be with you, alex.
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of egypt has met with members of the muslim brotherhood in a meeting already. in addition, word has it that some significant changes, demands from protesters, but long-held demands in terms of efforting change in egypt, are said to be under way to be met. those include having egypt suspend martial law, a condition under which that country has existed since the assassination of anwar sadat. so, you can imagine, it has been nearly 30 years that they have been living under martial law. we are getting word that egypt has agreed to suspend that law once the security situation stabilizes, and that would be probably exactly what you're looking at right there in tahrir square. once everything gets somewhat back to normal, martial law will be suspended. another four notable points. we're going to be talking about them throughout this morning here on "msnbc sunday" for you. meantime, police protecting england's royal family are being issued taser guns in response to a security scare in december. the british paper "the telegraph" says police made the decision to carry stun guns
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